Joined: 13 June 2005 United Kingdom Posts: 8422 Gender: Female
Posted: 04 May 2007 at 11:50am | IP Logged
I am so angry.
At mum and tots this morning there was an asian lady and her daughter there. Now I'm not rasist but the asian familys who come to the group seem to stick together very much and dont mix. They also sit in the corner talking and so dont pay much attention to where their children are.
Edward and his best friend Ruby went to play in the play kitchen area which they love to do. There was a little girl in there, probably older than most of the children due to her height etc - I'd put her at 3+ who had moved all the toys to the top shelf out of ruby and Edwards reach and was stood infront of the cupboard and oven refusing to let them open them. If either child picked something up she snatched it off them and pushed them away.
The kids came out but later we took them back in where she still was. She snatched everything off Edward so I asked her to give it back where she gave me the dirtiest look and glared at as both the whole time. Any time she thought I wasnt looking she's snatched everything off him and put it out of his reach.
When the snacks were given out she was just as rude to her mum, shoving her away and making her feed her the biscuit - her mum said nothing! She didnt help tidy away and stayed in the kitchen at story time. Edward went in there and picked up the play phone and she snatched it off him and pushed him away 3 times quite roughly. The mum said no but left it at that.
I know it all sounds petty but it has left Edward and ruby (and plenty of other kids) scared to play in the kitchen area which the los love!) If shes there again next week I feel like saying something to the mum but can I really tell her how to disapline her child.
Me and Rubys mum were just so angry at how she got away with comendering the area all session and the little ones missed out. Am I going OTT on this or do you agree?
Joined: 02 August 2005 United Kingdom Posts: 1069 Gender: Female
Posted: 04 May 2007 at 12:07pm | IP Logged
That is exaclty why i don't go to these groups - i used to take the
kids i child-minded (before thomas came along) and there were
parents/carers there who were exactly the same. The kids could be
swingin from the lightshades and they never bothered.
I used to get so frustrated with the kids but more so the parents/
carers.
I would say something if i were you. i am sure you would be
speaking on behalf of others if you said something to the parents.
especially if the kids are put of from playing in the same area as
these kids
It wouldn't sound as though you are telling them how to discipline if
you said that she is taking toys of others and pushing the younger
kids.
Joined: 11 June 2005 United Kingdom Posts: 8516 Gender: Female
Posted: 04 May 2007 at 12:25pm | IP Logged
If she is there next week, make sure you tell her! I know it sounds awful, but the toys are there for all the kids not just her, you have to be firm. If the mother doesn't like you dealing with it, then explain that she must discipline her child appropriately. Just saying no and ignoring is not right when it comes to other peopples kids and if enough of you aren't happy go for it! I'm lucky at the one I go to there are only half a dozen kids (at that is at a stretch the other week there were 4 kids!) But we all keep an eye on the kids, although it is a social thing for parents, the main aim is so that the kids get some play time that they enjoy with other kids their age not endure it for the sake of it!
Joined: 14 June 2005 United Kingdom Posts: 2338 Gender: Female
Posted: 04 May 2007 at 12:43pm | IP Logged
Soo not OTT madz!! You need to speak up, its bullying! That kind of behaviour is what they will remember, and think is normal...At our Young Parents group the other week a boy called Ben who's 3 was JUMPING on megs chest and belly, sitting on her and smacking her in the face if she tried to get up...The mother of said child was texting her mates on her mobile, and didnt even know where her kid was...disgusting behaviour...Andy gave Ben such a look that ben shyed away, and Andy went and picked Meg up, who by this point was crying her eyes out and very red in the face!! Other mums in the group were shocked at this behaviour, and honestly, he could have seriously hurt Meg, she's so tiny in comparison to all the other toddlers there, and he's 2 times her size.
I found out Ben had also bullied more of the toddlers and they were really terrified by him, and i hve had to mention it to the youth workers who run the group as we simply cannot have that, meg has since been hitting people in the face...They need proper socialising, not bullying. What really angered me is we have been goin to the group since it opened 2 years ago, and this lady with Ben has been going for about 2 mths and all she does is sit there texting her mates, and goes outside for a ciggy, leaving her kids in the room..its not our responsibility to watch her kids, and its not a creche lol! rant over, i just hate it when lo's are bullied...
Hope you can sort it out hun xxxx hugs for you and Eds xxxx
Joined: 07 June 2006 United Kingdom Posts: 4088 Gender: Female
Posted: 04 May 2007 at 2:15pm | IP Logged
I dont go to mums n tots, purely because id lose my temper. Mind u, its the same thing when we go to the families club, the kids are left to run riot and the parents just ignore them. Does my head in, i keep a beady eye on my pair and rollockings are dished out as and when required...and i dont care whos kids they are..but thats just me.
You are not being ott chica, that lo sounds like a right brat, i would say something to her mother though..cos its not fair on the other kiddywinks that do want to play
Joined: 09 December 2006 United Kingdom Posts: 1011 Gender: Female
Posted: 04 May 2007 at 2:46pm | IP Logged
i would say this is the mothers fault for lettin her child behave in such a manner - a 3 Year old doesn't have limits unless a parents teachers them right from wrong...if i were u i would definately say something as its very unfair and she should be watchin her child throughtout the whole time she is there...isnt there a leader of the group or soemthing u can have a word with?
Joined: 04 October 2006 United Kingdom Posts: 881 Gender: Female
Posted: 04 May 2007 at 8:48pm | IP Logged
I would DEFINITELY say something. I have done in the past when other kids have been little demons to mine or other kids and there's been no-one around to tell them (like the time Ella almost got her eyes scratched out...). If the mother says something to you then just point out that if she told her child what was acceptable and what wasn't then you wouldn't need to, but that you're not prepared to let her daughter treat your child in that way. There are certain groups that I avoid now because I know I'll just end up getting into a fight with someone who's completely ignoring their child, but if nothing else, Eds needs to know that the rules are the rules and they apply to all children, not just him, whether those children know it or not. That;s howI see it anyway.
Joined: 22 November 2006 United Kingdom Posts: 1555 Gender: Female
Posted: 09 May 2007 at 3:58pm | IP Logged
I'd say something too, either to the child or mum, or both. Its not fair on the others if one child monopolises the toys! They are there to make friends and learn about sharing and interacting. If this happened at our group, serious words would be said!
Joined: 17 June 2005 United Kingdom Posts: 4934 Gender: Female
Posted: 09 May 2007 at 7:27pm | IP Logged
Definatly have a word with the mum.
I've seen this a few times at the M&T's we go too. I always have a word, you have too otherwise it ruin's it for everyone else.
I'm not shy and dont beat around the bush if I see something wrong I point it out to the parent, who nine times out of ten respond by discipling the child. You do get the odd one who look's at you like you've spoken in double dutch, though they are the 'precious' children that dont do anything wrong
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