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Posted: 15 November 2007 at 1:44pm | IP Logged Quote nikki

hi all, i would really love to hear your opinion on controlled crying!!! i posted a topic in september explaining that callum wasnt sleeping through the night and asked for advice, most of you adviced on giving water when he wakes and mabye controlled crying. so i stopped giving him milk and just gave water and for a few weeks it worked!!!! now things are worse.he is waking up and several times a night and can take at least an hour to get back to sleep,which means hardly any sleep for me and my partner.this is bringing us to breaking point as we are becoming a real mr n mrs smith in the night time(all guns blazing!!)up until today he would not even consider controlled crying as he feels its cruel to let callum cry even for a little while.now i finally got him to agree to try it for a week and he has.right ,my problem now is, ive been looking it up on the net to see excactly how it should be done and have come across a few articles that suggest it does more harm than good and now am sooooooo confused on what to do for the best!!!im ten weeks pregnant and have underactive thyroids which is probebly making me feel worse, but im desperate to try anything to help him sleep and for me n hubby to stop arguing because we are so tired and cranky with each other aal the time.so anyone's opinion on this subject would be greatly appreciated!!!!
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Posted: 15 November 2007 at 2:05pm | IP Logged Quote Vickimom

My method of controlled crying was to leave him for 10 mins then go back in the room, until I realised that each time I went in he got worse.  I then decided to bite the bullet and do it the harsh way.  I put him to bed, and came out, I came downstairs, put my music on so I could hardly hear him, and ignored it, I turned the volume down every 10 mins until it was quiet upstairs, it will hurt to start with, but if it's during the night you go in make sure he's fine, then leave him only go in once to check what he problem is, then leave him scream.  Unless you are both united it will not work!  Dh may not like it, but it won't hurt them to scream it out, and be prepared for it to take 2 or 3 weeks to actually feel like it's working.  Just make sure there is nothing in his room that he can be injured with.  HTH and good luck
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Posted: 15 November 2007 at 2:05pm | IP Logged Quote zanynut

Hun have you looked at your house?

This is going to sound daft but my house is cold at night even though heating is on 24hrs the mid morning is cold chill, covers getting kicked off etc? Has he got a cold sniffles? Cutting a tooth? Trying to cut out his naps which makes him over tired?

I know it's basic stuff but i'm having to go though the tick list again as krisitan has days where he doesn't sleep still..... i personnally used a method of giving milk and weaning him off it over night.... making the milk more diluted.... i've also found giving my lo more milk in the day helps him sleep at night....  otherwise i can't offer much advice apart from varying the time, call out saying i'll be there in a min just getting up.....then tuck him in........and give him a kiss wish him night night if he's quite and wave good bye and then give him a kiss at the door and say sweet dreams xxx Then if he starts leaving him 5 you'll know when he sounds like he's about to get into a state and then go in just before but settle him then leave again.... if he won't settle with out you in the room i was advised to sit in the room and slowly sneek out further towards the door etc.

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Posted: 15 November 2007 at 2:06pm | IP Logged Quote feemcg

There is so much conflicting advice about controlled crying its no wonder you are confused!

I would say to try it again though if you had good results the first time round

Children sometimes just cry for the sake of it and to get a reaction so the sooner they see they aren't getting one they give up

Obviously check first that he isn't in any pain/discomfort etc then leave him too it

I used to go in every 10 minutes to Lily at first and simply lay her back down and say Shhh and give her tummy a wee pat for a bit then walk out (no talking or eye contact if possible sounds harsh but its for the best!)- I then increased the time between going in and eventually she'd drop off

After a couple of weeks of doing this she would go to sleep no bother and that would be her for the night

It is hard and the most heart renching part is hearing them cry but try and be strong and keep at it - it'll do you all the world of good in the end

Use whatever method you used before and stick at it - and try and explain to your dp that in order for lo to learn you have to be consistent

More often than not it doesn't take long for them to adjust

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Posted: 03 December 2007 at 9:40pm | IP Logged Quote nikki

hiya,sorry i havnt replied but my computer has been playing up.i have tried all the advice and so far so good!!!! the first couple of nights were hard but im getting there.if callum cries i go in and make sure he's covered up and then leaving the room,if he is standing in his cot i lay him back down,give him a kiss then quietly sneak out.i had to do that for a few nights and now he is sleeping through til 4 am then he is up and ready to play,i cant grumble cos at least im getting some sleep!! i just have to go to bed around nine-ten o clock.thanks for the advice xxxx
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Posted: 04 December 2007 at 9:41am | IP Logged Quote martha

Like zanynut has sais I would look at your surroundings, What time does he go to bed and how many naps does he have during the day ?

Do your other children make a lot of noise when he is asleep ?

Rachel started waking again around that age and I had to cut out one of her naps bringing it down to one a day.

Has he always woken during the night, if so it might be just a habbit that needs to be broken.

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Posted: 04 December 2007 at 1:15pm | IP Logged Quote Vickimom

Glad it seems to be working for you. He will eventually sleep through the night( it just never feels like it when you are going through it!)
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Posted: 04 December 2007 at 1:25pm | IP Logged Quote zanynut

Hi hun

Well i feel like i'm joining a club here, kristian was sleeping thought the night but now is sooo tried at the moment that he's soo tired and is going to bed a 6 (earliest time possible with eldest's clubs etc) and is waking at night but this is because he's been kicking off his duvet or if i tuck him in tightly he climbs out and on top of it!! Even does the same if i then cover him with a blanket..... he's started sleeping a little better now that i've put an oil filled electric radiator thing additional in his room to heating being on so when the temp dips out side he's room at least (with the door pulled too) he has a nice warm room and doesn't get cold and crabby!!

I do wish i could snuggle up like they can!! Expecially (sp?) when it's cold out side and they are all warm and snug in there prams with blankets and coats etc! Oh no i sound like i need a rocking chair, my corss stitch (i don't knit) anda blanket! lol

Sorry i seem to have rabbited on and i was only trying to let you know you are denifatly not alone x

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Posted: 05 December 2007 at 3:34pm | IP Logged Quote nikki

i think i spoke too soon.callum was awake what felt like all night!!!! im sure he teething cos he was screaming and just wouldnt settle.i have been making sure the house is warm enough now he does kick his blankets off a lot during the night.im just hoping he starts sleeping through by june when new bubby comes along or i will be needing matchsticks!!!!(or a straight jacket)xxxx
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Posted: 05 December 2007 at 5:19pm | IP Logged Quote MADMOO

Hey babe, its hard when your not getting sleep isnt it? Two things to try. 1, is he eating enough during the day? fill him up as much as possible even if it means he eats 5 times a day, bulk up his tea time food so he has a belly full to go to bed, and 2, have you tried those fleecy all in one baby grow thingys? my lot wore normal babygrow/pjs underneath then fleedcy over the top, then if he kicks covers off he is still warm.

Both of these worked for my three.

I also did the controlled crying thing. I only left them 5 mins 1st time, then 10, then 15 and so on. the first night we did it i was still going back after 1 1/2 hrs and Matt had screamed so much he puked everywhere. Didnt talk to him at all, changed the covers, laid him back down and said Goodnight in a firm voice walked out and started again. Its hideous, but it did work and I did it with twins sharing a room!! The lady who came in to help me through it (Sure Start, dont know if you have help in this way where you are?) said we would crack it in a week. It worked , with both of them in 9 nights. Never looked back. Spent the first 5 nights crying myself! But you both have to be very strict and stick to it... dont give up after 6 nights as you will go back to square one.. its worth the pain!!

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