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Posted: 21 June 2008 at 12:08pm | IP Logged Quote Madzwalker

The night before last Edward woke up at about 9.30 crying his little eyes out. He was sat up in bed sobbing so I curled him up in my arms and DH came up and rubbed his legs and we were both talking softly too him trying to calm him down. It seemed to me he was asleep and I didnt want to shock him by waking him suddenly. He has tears running down his face and was really sobbing.

In the end he fell asleep on my lap, when he woke crying again a few mins later I asked what was wrong he said he was hungry so I bought him a bowl of cereal up - but by then he was asleep. I went back up 10 mins later as he was crying again but he couldnt tell me why and was far too tired to consider eating. In the end I managed to settle him and stayed with him til he was asleep - he didnt wake again that night.

In the morning I was talking to him and he told me a monster had come into his room in the night and stolen all his toys. He's been playing monsters with his grumps earlier in the evening so I have no told dad to stop playing monster games.

DH has told me he used to be a frequent dreamer and sleepwalker and was on traqualisers at 5 to help with his dreams. He used to climb out of his bedroom window and all sorts! I hope I dont have to go through all that!

The problem is DH is now away in amsterdam for a week and I am supposed to be taking sleeping pills - however I cant if I dont know that I will wake if he needs me. I dont know how frequent they will be. Sorry I just wondered what your own experience of childhood nightmares are.

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Posted: 21 June 2008 at 5:31pm | IP Logged Quote mum2joshua

As you know I suffered with Joshua's nightmares for a few years. I also suffered with sleepwalking as a child. I'd leave the house and do lots of random things. Some nights I'd bang on the front door and demand to be let out, used to give my mum a right fright as dad worked nights and she was alone with us.

I know first hand how horrible it is watching your lo having nightmares and not knowing what to do. Most of Joshua's were night terrors so he never remembered them afterwards which was a blessing, but he does sometimes have them about spiders or monsters that upset him terribley. I used to make sure that there was something soft next to the bed, Joshua used to jump with suck a fright he'd land hard on the floor. I also made sure that the windows were closed properly, but that was mainly due to his night terrors when they got so bad he would try escaping or hurting himself. I also made sure none of his toys were left lying around, one incase I had to dash in, and secondly incase he tried to dash out of bed.

I hope this has been a one off with Eds and that he gets a good night sleep tonight. Maybe you could get him a night light. Tell him monsters dont like the light on and it may give him some reassurance. I told Joshua that monsters (and such things) only live in stories and tv, they are not real like mummies and children. Hope you both manage some sleep tonight xxx

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Posted: 21 June 2008 at 9:57pm | IP Logged Quote ally7963

One of my children at nursery used to have really bad dreams about monsters, I suggested to his mum that they sprinkle magic powder (glitter or talc should do) by the door and window to stop the monsters getting in.  The mum said it worked a treat, but was very messy! lol  Might be worth a try??

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Posted: 23 June 2008 at 10:29am | IP Logged Quote Madzwalker

Hi girls.

Well the night after Eds nightmare he slept at a friends house and was fine - then last night we both slept at my mums house and he had another nightmare - it was just the same as the previous night - sat in bed asleep but crying his eyes out. I took him into my bed and he settles ok but I am now worried this is going to become more comman - he cant seem to remember what he dreamt about so I dont know what I can do to ease the situation.

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Posted: 23 June 2008 at 10:41am | IP Logged Quote mumofone

My DD is 3 3/4 yr old now and will wake with bad dreams though I came up with a great idea one night about putting a small pile of books of hers under the bed which I told her would catch all the ideas for dreams and only let out good ones. When I told her (she's here now watching pocoyo) your DS was having bad dreams she said I should tell you so the books would catch his bad dreams.

Must say the bad dreams have gone from every night down to every 2 or 3 weeks.

Just a thought. 

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Posted: 23 June 2008 at 3:06pm | IP Logged Quote Madzwalker

Thanks - I'm still not 100% sure if this is nightmares or night terrors as when I ask him in the morning and he tells me its monsters - he doesnt seem scared and its almost like its what he thinks he should say if that makes sence.

However at the time he is crying and beside himself, still asleep, sweating, unresponsive - and it is early (between 9.30 and 10pm) whereas reading online about nightmares they seem to occur later, and night terrors earlier.

He has a dream catcher so I am going to get him to hang it in the centre of his window tonight to catch all the bad dreams and see how it goes.

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Posted: 23 June 2008 at 5:30pm | IP Logged Quote 19731hazy

Bless him. Poor wee guy, hope he has a better night for you, xxx.
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Posted: 23 June 2008 at 7:21pm | IP Logged Quote mum2joshua

Madz if it is occuring at a regular time wake him up about 9.15pm. Not so much that he is wide awake, but maybe offer him a small drink or put him on the toilet/potty. He'll then quickly fall back to sleep. Hopefully though waking him will disrupt his sleep cycle and avoid the night terror occuring. Night terrors occur in the deep non-REM stage if you disturb that then they fall back to sleep after this stage and this hopefully meaning a full nights sleep. As he isnt alert or awake it does sound like he is having night terrors, and they are very common in pre schoolers and toddlers. My advice would be not to discuss them in the morning, if he is remembering them then telling him he had a bad night may just implant false memories and you run the risk of him worrying about sleep or bad dreams, and then him having nightmares. I wouldnt encourage moving him into your bed, but if it is the only way for you both to get sleep then carry on. You do need your sleep too! If he is only waking for a short while try to just sit with him and reassure him with soft touches and whispers (dont try to wake him). It is usually a phase, particulary if he is on a growth spurt. If it lasts for a while, or they themselves last a long time in the night, then you could speak with the doctor. Joshua used to have them almost every night and his could last from 20 minutes to 4 hours and he'd be violent. The doctor agreed to give him a mild sedative and he seemed to improve, although we still have phases of them now if he has a couple of busy days and his mind is allowed to go on overdrive. 
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Posted: 23 June 2008 at 8:03pm | IP Logged Quote Lynie

Just want to reassure you Madz that this is common, I've been through phases of this with my older two.  It won't harm him, he probably wont remember anything next morning, it upsets the adults more than the kids!
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Posted: 24 June 2008 at 11:49am | IP Logged Quote jecko

aww poor Ed's i really hope this doesn't happen for him too often Madz, we have had nights similar with Molly but only every now and then and usually it happens if shes been playing monster or creepy crawly games or with my friends children who are alot older than her - she also has a moving Dora which i have had to take out her room as shes woke and said thats scared her in the passed and cried till its been removed, bless them I'm sure and hope its just a phase and will pass soon, i hope so anyway luv jue xx
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