Joined: 08 October 2006 United Kingdom Posts: 65 Gender: Female
Posted: 20 October 2006 at 6:23pm | IP Logged
Hi as most of you will have seen on my other post 'interfering MIL' I keep being told to give my LO top ups with water. The reason why I should give him water seems to change each time I speak to the MIL but some of her reasons include:
Cleans out LO mouth
Stops LO throat getting clogged up with milk
Because he's thirsty and LO doesnt get his thirst quenched by breast milk
It helps to get rid of colic/wind
It helps to get rid of milk spots
Babies need to taste something other than breastmilk
I'm sure she has said loads of other reasons as well but I tend to turn off when she goes on about it cause everything I have read on this subject seems to go against this idea. My MIL was a nurse and a MW before she retired and I feel awful when we dont take her advice but my instincts tell me Nathaniel doesnt need anything other than what my body has produced for him, especially as he is so young (5wks)...
Does anyone else have any suggestions, feelings or comments on this subject? I would be really interested to know if any of you have introduced water to your lo diets and at what age did you start...
Joined: 07 June 2006 United Kingdom Posts: 4057 Gender: Female
Posted: 20 October 2006 at 6:41pm | IP Logged
oooo my own mum came up with some of those ones. She said about the clean out mouth one, erm and the thirsty top up ones.
I have to admit I didnt do any of it with Tasja and had a mare getting her to drink anything when it came round to it. With Isla though I think (cos it was ages ago) I waited til she was over a month old, and then gave it a bash. It was a lot easier as Isla got older to get her to drink other stuff...than having to fight tooth and nail like I had to with Tasja.
The lass who used to live over the road gave her lo water from day dot..as well as being on the bottles and all was fine.
Joined: 12 June 2005 United Kingdom Posts: 2616 Gender: Not Specified
Posted: 20 October 2006 at 6:50pm | IP Logged
erm..I'd go with your instincts - I didn't give Ellie anything other than breastmilk until she was at least a few months old and then I did give her water in a bottle sometimes as she was only feeding about every 4 hours and I didn't want her to have loads of bfs a day when she wasn't hungry if you see what I mean..
Babies don't need anything more than breastmilk - your milk provides both a drink and then a meal...so if you're happy to go with a bf whenever your baby wants it, I'd not bother with the water just yet...
I did give Ellie expressed breastmilk a couple of times a week tho from her being about 2 weeks old because I didn't want to have a problem getting her onto a bottle - she was fine with it...
I've never heard of the reasons above being good reasons to give a baby water, quite honestly they sound a bit silly to me - what did women do before bottles were invented?! The mw in the hospital did tell me that warmed water would get rid of wind but I don't know if this is true...
stick to your guns - she had her chance with her own babies, it's your turn now! good luck!
Joined: 02 August 2005 United Kingdom Posts: 1069 Gender: Female
Posted: 20 October 2006 at 6:51pm | IP Logged
Old school myths !
I was advised to top up breastmilk with water to stop dehydration or on
warm days and also because it apparently helps relieve colic. (thomas
had bad colic until about 4 months) I can't comment if that works or not
i tried giving thomas water at about 2 months and he spat it out - he is
now 3 and still won't drink water.
There is really no need to give water to a baby - there is nothing in
water that breastmilk doesn't have.
That's not to say you should try water but it's your decision.
Stick to your guns
HTH
Joined: 14 June 2005 United Kingdom Posts: 2319 Gender: Female
Posted: 20 October 2006 at 7:42pm | IP Logged
a lot of those are not worth listening to...if breastmilk wasnt sufficient then how come women have done it for hundreds of years before us? Foremilk is the thirst quencher of breastmilk and if anything water gives baby more wind!! Go with your own instincts, i never gave Liam anything other than breastmilk when i was breastfeeding him. Just smile sweetly whenever MIL offers naff advice and do what you like, its your baby! xxxx
Joined: 11 June 2005 United Kingdom Posts: 5791 Gender: Female
Posted: 20 October 2006 at 8:32pm | IP Logged
I never gave Fran or Ollie water or any other fluid until I started to wean them, babies don't need water if they are exclusively breastfed, breastmilk is all they need. Even in hot countries mothers exclusively breastfeed their babies and don't give them water. Breastmilk doesn't coat a babies mouth like formula milk so they don't need their mouth washing, their throats don't get clogged up, it won't get rid of milk spots because milk spots aren't really caused by milk anyway in fact they would probably get more of a rash from the inpurities in water and they don't need to taste anything other than breastmilk as their taste buds haven't developed yet they are still very basic at this age.
Do what you feel is right and stick to your guns. When mil suggests something just thank her politely and do your own thing she'll never know there is no point in getting into an argument about it. Good luck.
Joined: 11 June 2005 United Kingdom Posts: 8402 Gender: Female
Posted: 20 October 2006 at 8:32pm | IP Logged
OOooo this is a good one! If you are breast feeding you do NOT need to give your baby extra fluids etc for any reason unless told to do so by a doctor ie during a heatwave! Your body produces exactly what the baby needs, the 'foremilk' is watery and basically quenches baby's thirst, and the hind milk is the food which will add the weight and calories your baby needs. I learnt all that after I gave up! If I had known why the baby wasn't putting the weight on, I'd have expressed some of my foremilk and given him 'the good stuff'.
You know your baby better than she does, and even the mw's won't presume to tell you that they know more than you, as you are the one that has the baby round the clock! HTH
But if it was my mil, I'd put the phone down next time she started hassling you! lol
Joined: 17 June 2005 United Kingdom Posts: 3631 Gender: Female
Posted: 20 October 2006 at 11:33pm | IP Logged
Okay! I've got out the good old "La Leche League" book again!
Here are the counter arguments to giving water supplements;
" When breastfeeding is going well, water or formula suplements are
not needed... thet can contribute to health problems in mother and
baby and interfere with breastfeeding in the following ways...
1. Supplement fill up the baby, making him less interested in breast
feeding. Water and water and glucose solutions interfere with
breastfeeding and babies who recieve them tend to loose more
weight than babies who are exclusively breastfed.
2. Water supplements contribute to newborn jaundice. Studies
indicate that the more water a baby receives in the early days, the
higher the bilirubin levels. The baby's first stool (meconium) is rich
in bilirubin. Colostrum has a laxitive effect helping new babies to
pass meconium more quickly. Water supplements do not stimulate
bowel movements causing bilirubin to be reabsorbed back into
babies' system increasing levels of newborn jaundice.
3. Human milk provides all the nourishment a baby needs for the first
six months. Even in hot weather, bottles of water are unnecessary.
Studies of babies living in hot, dry climates found that exclusive
breastfeeding met the infant's need for fluids. "
Just ignore that mil! I had to put up with mad advice like that too.
The one I hated most was "how do you know how much they're
getting".... mmmmmmm, let me see- could it be all the wet and dirty
mappies and the fact they're putting on weight? Some folk! lol!
Joined: 04 October 2006 United Kingdom Posts: 881 Gender: Female
Posted: 21 April 2007 at 10:25pm | IP Logged
Hi Rachel, welcome to the site
If you are breast feeding your baby and he/she is under 6 months of age, then you don't ever need to give extra water. Advice has changed an awful lot in the last even 10 years, never mind since we were all babies, so often the things we know now run in opposition to the things our mums and mums-in-law were told. By breastfeeding your baby you are giving them absolutely the best of everything they need, so smile at your MIL and just keep up the good work you're doing!
If you get any more questions about anything, just give us all a shout - look forward to seeing you about.
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